Coomb test can be direct & indirect
(A) Direct coomb test: This is done to detect any coated RBCs with antibodies (autoimmune haemolytic anaemia) in vivo (inside the body). Patient coomb positive suspected RBCs washed 3 times - add 3-4 drops of blood in a tube and then add Normal saline (fill the tube) and centrifuge at 3000 r.p.m for 3 minutes. Repeat this 3 times and then decant any remaining saline by putting the tube upside down on a tissue. Add AHG reagent or coomb reagent, centrifuge for a minute and see any agglutination for positive coomb test.
(B) Indirect Coomb test (Indirect antihuman globulin test - IAT): This test is done to detect any IgG antibodies in-vitro (outside the body). For example it is used for cross match, detect any antibodies in pregnant lady as prenatal care to know if the mother have any antibodies that can cross the placenta and attack baby RBCs. Thus it detects antibodies in the serum that are unbound to RBCs (apposite Direct coomb test which detects antibodies that are bound to RBCs). In cross matching, Pateint serum in Which presence of IgG antibodies is suspected incubated with Donors RBCs washed 3 times with Saline or LIS (Low Ionized Saline). If specific antibodies need to be detected then Ready made RBCs with known Antigen used, so pateint serum with known RBCs incubated. If RBcs washed with Saline the incubation period then is 1 hour which can be reduced to 20-30 minutes by washing with LIS. After incubation, Centrifuge and see any agglutination.
Note: Indirect Coomb test can also be used for incompatible ABO grouping which are IgM antibosies.
after washing, you will take one drop of RBCs, and add the AHG reagent, prefreably 2 drops.
then you will centrifuge and read for agglutination, if it is negative then add check cells, by now you should obtain positive test, otherwize your test is invalid and should be repeated.
This is for the Direct cooms test, in which you testing whether the patient RBCs are sensitized in vivo or not, in other words, does the RBCs of the patient have antibodies attached to it in vivo.
While for the indirect coombs, you are testing whether the patient have antibodies in the serum or not, her you will use reagent RBCs from the lab, and add patient serum to it. if the test is also negative then you have to add check cells the test should turn to positive, if not then repeat the test from the start point.
Thank you very much
Thank you very much for the worthy information
Please can you explain in more detail the washing process. I mean what kind of tissue I use and how many times I add saline.
Thank you very much for the worthy information
Please can you explain in more detail the washing process. I mean what kind of tissue I use and how many times I add saline.
Sure why not,
1) Take 3 - 4 drops of EDTA blood or clotted blood in a 3 ml plastic tube
2) Add Saline (fill 3/4 of the tube)
3) Centrifuge at 3000 r.p.m for 3 minutes.
4) Discard the supernatant (this is first washing) keeping RBCs sediment
5) Repeat the same proceadure for the second & third washing.
6) In the third washing, after discarding the supernatant, keep a piece of tissue paper on a bench and keep the tube upside down to remove all saline without disturbing RBCs sediment
7) Make 5% RBC suspension (If you take 50 ul of RBC sediment and add 950 ul of saline) in a new tube. This could be done in same tube of washing but u need experience as well as practice in order to make it, so it is better to do it in a way i said
7) Take 1-2 drops of 5% RBCs suspension and place it in another 3 ml plastic tube
8) Add 2 drops of coombs reagent in this tube
9) Centrifuge at 3000 r.p.m for 1 minute.
10) See any agglutination
This proceadure is done for Direct coomb test, However Washing steps are same in both Direct & Indirect. The only difference is that Indirect coom test need incubation period after addition of coombs reagent
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سوال على الطاير : في اي الحالات (يجب) عمل كروس ماتش في ال room temperature ولمادا !!؟؟*
Thanks brother, Cross match at room temperature is called (Immediate=Spin Cross match) and it is done to determine ABO compatibility in those recipients with negative antibody screening, no previous history of clinically significant antibody. In this method donor RBC with recipient serum or plasma are combined & centrifuged at room temperature. Then RBCs are observed for agglutination which indicates presence of IgM antibodies (e.g ABO or cold antibodies).
Method:
1. Centrifuge recipient sample to obtain serum or plasma.
2. Make 2% - 4% RBC suspension of donors sample. (wash RBCs before making the suspension)
3. Add 2 drops of recipient sample with 2 drops of suspended donor RBCs in a 3 ml tube.
4. Centrifuge at 3000 r.p.m for 1 minute.
5. See any agglutination.
على فكرة ال X-match في ال room temperature يطلق كان يطلق عليه عندنا في امريكا ب incomplete crossmatch وهو يعمل كما قال اخي medical lab specialist
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مشكور اخي medical lab والدكتور اشرف على ردكم الجميل لكن سوالي لكما ليش احنا في الاصل بنعمل في ال Cross match at room temperature ؟؟وشي الي يهمنا في ال IgM مادام نحن بنقل الدم في الجسم في 37 ؟؟؟ بنعمل الاختبار في 37 وخلاص , هل يوجد حالات معينه او امراض معينه يتم نقل الدم الى الجسم بصوره بارده مرضى القلب مثلا كما سمعت ؟؟؟؟!!
مشكور اخي medical lab والدكتور اشرف على ردكم الجميل لكن سوالي لكما ليش احنا في الاصل بنعمل في ال Cross match at room temperature ؟؟وشي الي يهمنا في ال IgM مادام نحن بنقل الدم في الجسم في 37 ؟؟؟ بنعمل الاختبار في 37 وخلاص , هل يوجد حالات معينه او امراض معينه يتم نقل الدم الى الجسم بصوره بارده مرضى القلب مثلا كما سمعت ؟؟؟؟!!
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Thanks brother Hussen99 & your question is fantastic. The answer is as follows:
As I said previously that this test is done for ABO incompatibility & for cold agglutinin antibodies which are IgM type. You thought it otherway round, imagine what is easier to you as laboratory technologist to perform a test at room temperature (natural temperature at room) or at 37 which requires water bath (special instrument), offcourse i would say room temperature but that doesnt mean that ABO incompatibility studies can not performed at 37, in fact it can be. Going back to the structure of IgM (remember Immunology lecture) - IgM has 5 Ig sites with 10 antigen binding sites (see attached picture) which means it doesnt require any coomb reagent to help visulaisation of agglutination. In fact if you would suspect IgG antibodies then you need coomb reagent help with 37 degree incubation (Indirect coombs test). ABO incompatibility studies can be performed in 37 as i said, however as far as gold antibodies are concerned you can not detect them at 37. This is because they react best at temperature between 28-31 degree which is quite similar to room temperature and if the test is performed at 37 you will miss to identify them. Inside the body cold antibodies are not reactive, however the need of detection of these antibodies is very important as they can give false ABO grouping & X-match incompatibility. For example, imagine you do a slide ABO grouping which is usaualy done at room temperature. Patients who have these cold antibodies will give agglutination with all anti-sera giving false AB Rh(D) positive blood group. Hope this helps
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